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Saturday, September 28, 2019

Betts: Abigail - Who are her parents?

This blog entry is from a document I created on the last day of 2004 and last updated in 2006.  I posted it or something close to it on one of the genealogy lists and it is still there:

Noah Gates m. Abigail Betts ... late 1700's... who was her father

... I don't consider the question answered!


Abigail Betts
(email: WmAGates@gmail.com)

Abigail Betts was born 1765 April 22nd, as reported by many researchers, (this calendar date is a Monday) to Thaddeus Betts and Deborah Mead.  Many Gates Family researchers identify that this Abigail married Noah Gates at Wilton CT.

Chamberlain (1982) in developing the genealogy of Annie Rebecca Betts provides details of the family of Thaddeus and Deborah.  Chamberlain’s first source (as she states unless otherwise noted) for the first five generations is “Charles Wyllys Betts – Thomas Betts (1618- 1688) and his descendants”.  Chamberlain’s second source is “David Herman VanHoosear and G. Evans Hubbard, unpublished genealogies of Wilton families, Wilton Historical Society Collection, Wilton CT.”  This information provides that the birth of Abigail is 1765 April 22nd and presents some difficulties.

Facts from the Chamberlain perspective -

·      The eldest child of Thaddeus and Deborah is Nehemiah, reported born at Wilton 1765 September 25th.  This is a Wednesday and approximately 5 months after Abigail was born.

·      Abigail is not included among the children of Thaddeus and Deborah, neither by Chamberlain nor by [1934Barbour - Norwalk, Newtown, Ridgefield, Redding, Woodbury, Wilton, and other towns in those volumes but not exhaustively].

·      Thaddeus Betts and Deborah Mead were married 1764 May 10th.   Abigail was born ~ 13 months later.  Nehemiah was born ~16 months later.  The Barbour Collection [Norwalk] reports the marriage of Thaddeus, Jr. as one year earlier, 1763 May 10th.

·      The first son (eldest child) of Thaddeus, Nehemiah, appears to be named after his maternal grandfather.



Observations –

·      Chamberlain was working closely with the Wilton Public Library and the Wilton Historical Society.

·     Abigail has been assigned to the wrong Thaddeus or incorrect family.  Barbour records six [in Norwalk] Thaddeus of which one/two others could be the families … Thaddeus and Mary Gould (m 1752) … Thaddeus and Elizabeth Maltby.   Is this the same Thaddeus with a (2nd wife m. 1754) ?  This is probably not the case since we cannot find Abigail associated with them but migration could account for this!

·      The birth dates for Abigail and Nehemiah are incorrect, one or both.

·    If the marriage date provided by Chamberlain is correct and Nehemiah’s birth date is correct then it is possible that Abigail still fits within the Thaddeus and Deborah family but rather unlikely and one would still have to change her birth date. 

·      Abigail could have been conceived before the marriage, but again this is unlikely for the day and age.  The earlier date of marriage from Barbour does not resolve the issue still, unless the birth date for Abigail is changed.  Deborah was ~25 years of age when married and Thaddeus ~27 years old.

·    In examining the Chamberlain work Thaddeus Betts does not have a parent or grandparent named Abigail.  The errata sheet changing Deborah’s mother should be noted but does not change observations. Both of the lines investigated by Chamberlain do have some Abigail ancestors.  The line of (Daniel Betts – Abigail Patchen, [Jacob Patchen – Abigail Cable], Daniel – Sarah Comstock, Daniel Betts – Deborah Taylor, Thomas Betts – Mary (?) ) has an Abigail tradition but according to Chamberlain has no Abigail in the immediate family of Thaddeus and Deborah … note that the family can be reconstructed from Barbour [Norwalk/Wilton] except for the presence of Abigail.  Abigail is not contained in the Barbour [Norwalk/Wilton] record. 



Perhaps the basic question(s) of when was Abigail born and who were her parents can be resolved by going to original sources or discovering which sources many researchers actually used.


[1982Chamberlain] The Ancestors and Descendants of Annie Rebecca Betts 1850- 1916 Wilton, Connecticut, Marjorie D. Chamberlain printed at Kings Press, Moutlake Terrace, WA 1982.

[1934Barbour] [F104 A58 W48 1994] The Barbour Collection of Connecticut Town Vital Records, Compiled - Marie S Crossley, General Editor - Lorraine White.

[1888Betts] Charles Wyllys Betts – Thomas Betts (1618- 1688) and his descendants, reprinted, indexed.

[18xxVanHoosear] David Herman VanHoosear and G. Evans Hubbard, unpublished genealogies of Wilton families, Wilton Historical Society Collection, Wilton CT.


Tuesday, August 27, 2019

Is Noah Gates, Spouse of Abigail (Betts) (Gates) Rood Resting in Lakeview Cemetery, Cayuga Village, Cayuga County, NewYork ?


Is Noah Gates, Spouse of Abigail (Betts) (Gates) Rood
Resting in Lakeview Cemetery,
Cayuga Village, Cayuga County, NewYork ?



To Begin: A Footnote!

Sometime ago I put Noah Gates on a “watch list” on the FamilySearch.org website and more or less forgot about it. Last night, August 27, 2019, I got an email that said his record had been edited with new information.

As I followed up I'm still not sure what I have but I have long been looking for information about what happened to Noah, having concluded that he died sometime around 1813. The latter is based on court records in which Samuel Gates (Noah's father) filed for guardianship of his children (and named) in the County of Saratoga, New York.

Many have, since the court records constructed a narrative that he died in the War of 1812. That may be but Abigail was left with many mouths to feed and I assume she would have applied for a pension or land patent. I can find no such record.

Before Noah came to Cayuga County he was an officer in the New York Militia in Saratoga. He resigned his commission. His brother Coleman also was an officer and continued to rise in the ranks in Saratoga.

Coming back to the present!

A link was created from FamilySearch.org to FindaGrave.com putting “Sr Gates” in the Lakeview Cemetery, as linked to “Noah Gates Sr.” The former “Sr Gates” hopefully has some dates associated with it or other further source data.

I have requested a photograph from FindaGrave.com along with any information about how the entry was created.

Watch this space ... the answer seems to be no.  Contacted FAG volunteer who covered this cemetery an he reports no Noah Gates memorials exist (anyway).

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The short answer is that no such burial or memorial stone is located in this cemetery.

The following dialog with an FAG contact and cousin (reverse order) make it clear -

Robert Byrnes on 5 Sep 2019
RE: Noah Gates
You are very welcome. Thanks for the information on the Gates. I am sorry you can't find Noah. I have some understanding of that disappointment and frustration
Robert Byrnes 

RE: Noah Gates
William,
You are welcome. The records for Lakeview show no Gates buried there and I have no Gates in my folder for Lakeview. This is the link to the Gs in Lakeview. Portion of the burials doesn't mean the list is incomplete. It means that particular page is the G portion of burials
http://www.cayugagenealogy.org/cem/cem11/G.htm

Bob Byrnes
crashashim on 27 Aug 2019
RE: Abigail Gates
Wow that is some good stuff you have there, I will have to look into it more my biggest thing is getting more info on Charlotte Ann Eliza Gates who married John Fletcher Willoughby not much on him that I have

crashashim on 27 Aug 2019
Abigail Gates
Hi just seen your message about Abigail thanks for the info she is my 5th great Grandma through her son Ashbell William Gates and then through his daughter Charlotte Elizabeth Gates and then through her son Charles Gates Willoughby

Robert Byrnes on 27 Aug 2019
Noah Gates

William,
There is no volunteer in Cayuga county. I photographed much of Lakeview and that is how gravestone photos are posted to memorials there. I have no photo for Noah Gates and I have never seen a stone dating as far back as 1813
Bob Byrnes


Tuesday, March 5, 2019

William Noah Gates : Civil War Pension 800415 Form 3-173 filed 19031016 per request of Department of the Interior


William Noah Gates : Civil War Pension 800415
Form 3-173 filed 19031016 per request of Department of the Interior authored February 2018


This form (3-173) was mailed to William N Gates in Middletown, Des Moines County, Iowa in 1903. It concerns mostly questions about marriages and children. Taken at face value it is a valuable genealogical document. However after much research it is more like an approximation than a totally accurate document. Although he signed the document it appears someone else supplied the written answers/transcription probably supplied from his memory as a roughly 70 year old. Corrections and other facts about the family are being added within this summary.

For example it says he is a currently married (Elizabeth Sumner) but his first wife, Elvira (Osmon), died in 1893 in Lawler, Iowa at the home of her daughter. She actually, by newspaper reports, died in 1896 and her maiden name is not Osborn; it is Osmon. Her family has recently (2018) been located in early Census records of Bath, Allen County, Ohio (1850) and subsequently Wisconsin. He and Elizabeth are living apart.

Many of the first names of the children are at best nicknames and/or of poor readability. The provision of geo-location, age, married surname and then corroboration with other records has been used to get them in some order.

Taking them as provided on Question 4 -

The first mentioned daughter looks like “Loui-- McDowell”. She is listed as about 30 years old and living in Osages, Minnesota. The age and geo-location make it much more likely this is “Loah Gertrude” who married Charles Wesley McDaniel (verified in Wisconsin Vital Records and newspaper accounts). They lived mostly in Osages and he was a real estate agent according to several Census.

The last mentioned daughter is “Ella McDowell” described as about 32 years old and living in Lawler, Iowa. This is most likely “Lo Ella” who married George McDowell. George was involved with different regional newspapers from before his marriage. Ella's mother Elvira was evidently living with them when she died in 1896. Ella is the only daughter that married a McDowell.

The second daughter is identified as “Retta Gates”. Again, very recently in 2019, Retta's formal first name has been verified in several records, Census and burial, as Viretta. She was known as “Retta” when younger and Viretta at the end of her life. She was probably in Kansas and Montana but by 1940 she was in California. She was married to Edward A Slightam. He is buried near Yuba City, California near a son and she is buried in Maryland, FAG #167614996, near a daughter.

Charles Gates and Willie Gates have their ages reversed. Although William states he does not know where Charles is residing he was in in southwestern Wisconsin most of his life except for a period of time in Osages, Minnesota. His daughter, Dorothy May, and my aunt told this to me. Now knowing that C W McDaniel was a real estate agent we perhaps have a connection as to why they were ever in Minnesota. My aunt told me stories of wolves howling and a disastrous growing season before they returned to Wisconsin.

Willie Gates has disappeared from the scene. He may be a cook in Kansas and if so, single.

“Belle Hoff” is said to be 45 years old and living in the State of Washington. She is by age and other Wisconsin Vital Records most certainly “Lillie L (Belle) Poff”. If she made it to Washington it was after her husband died in Sherman County, Kansas. Dr. J M Poff died 18940106, FAG #187851105. At the time of his death they had two surviving children, names unknown. Did she remarry a “Hoff”? They lost their first child as born in Wisconsin and a Clyde Poff is buried in Sherman County, Kansas, 1887. This county seems to contain a relatively large number of Poff memorials in FAG.

Ethel Gates, about 22 years, is reported as in Osages Minnesota. This was verified and that she was married to first a George Lewis and then later in Ohio to a George H Norden.

Finally, William Noah failed to identify Ora Belle, about 26 in 1903 and married to L E Peckham. Two other daughters died in their infancy.

There are a large number of details omitted in this recounting but to the best degree possible the included details should be a better place to start again.

As a final footnote please consider -

In William Noah Gates obituary it states that he had nine children but of seven living only Charley was able to be with him at the end. From family conversations I believe the obituary may have been provided by Sarah Carver (Charlie's mother-in-law and William's caretaker).

A note from the Crawford County Journal, 18881210 states that a seventh daughter was born to the William Gates family (this may have been placed by George McDowell – check editor).

In the family of Wm. Gates was recorded last Wednesday morning the birth of a seventh daughter, and its name shall be finis, so saith the prophet.

The list of children in this genealogy numbers ten and eight daughters.

The difference is from including an FAG entry #70970287 and standalone burial stone of W & E Gates of another young daughter, Elma Gates in the vicinity of Soldiers Grove.

If she is a daughter then she would be the seventh. The FAG makes the attrbution but the image of the stone is not readable and the text entry for her death begs the question of why she was not listed on the 1880 Census.

So did William Noah Gates and Elvira (Osmon) Gates have nine children or ten?



Friday, February 8, 2019

On the Family of Leland C Gates and Eunice A (Landphair) Gates


On the Family of Leland C Gates
and Eunice A (Landphair) Gates
authored January-February 2019


Leland C Gates is the youngest son surviving to adulthood of Ashbel William and Phebe Morgan (Reed) Gates. Phebe and Ashbel had ten other children. Leland is among three brothers who lived, fought and survived the Civil War.

When I began to go over the records for Leland and Eunice I had no idea how complicated sorting out where they lived, when their children were born, or how long any of them survived. My goal was to build out his family and their descendants. Other genealogists have provided pieces that help immensely to which I will provide reference for the curious but urge caution that they always require substantiation. I have not examined court or land records. Leland is my great-uncle and brother to William Noah Gates, my great-grandfather.

Long ago I acquired what I believe is a subset of Leland's Civil War Pension (#11008096) records from the National Archives. In addition in early 1999 I acquired two transcripts of family Bible records. I believe Bible records attributed to Ashbel and Phebe (source: Don R Gates) were later copied and maintained and extended by Jane (Gates) (Senter) Landphair (source 2009 - Linda1954@aol.com: Linda (Gates) Sharpe). In turn I theorize that Eunice Landphair may have used one or more of these sources and entered them into a Bible presented to her and Leland by her father when she married Leland C Gates.

Leland was born in Michigan (1842) and when a young child came with his siblings and parents to Rockford, Illinois. Later the family resided in Warren, Jo Daviess, Illinois and seems to have also resided in Gratiot, Lafayette, Wisconsin. By his own words he was 18 when he enlisted in the Illinois Volunteers, was transferred to the US Navy (Gunboat Service – served on Admiral's Flagship USS Benton), discharged due to injuries and after two years re-enlisted in the Illinois Volunteer Cavalry. He married Eunice Landphair in 1863, the eldest step-daughter of his sister Jane.

Leland's Pension records provide evidence that his family lived in Illinois, Wisconsin and Iowa and again Wisconsin (Viola) before migrating to Arkansas in roughly 1887. The family can be found in US Census records for 1870, 1880 (as Gale), 1900, 1910 and 1920. Eunice reportedly died in 1919 and Leland in 1930 as a resident of the Western Branch, National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers, Leavenworth, Kansas. He is buried in the Leavenworth National Cemetery (FindAGrave.com - FAG #687841).

There are two documents in the Pension collection that record details about their children. Census records are many times problematic in spelling variants and family nicknames, plus ages generally being estimates so these pension records are indispensable and considered primary sources. I have also noticed that handwriting appears to be the same person on many documents requiring a signature and filled out by a respondent – it appears to be that of Leland C Gates. In addition the names of children on both documents are listed chronologically such that I believe another source, such as a Bible, was being consulted simultaneously. The Pension collection has a document notarizing a Bible ...

These statements are from the Pension document dated 18971202. Six living children: 1,182,551: Addressed to Mr. Leland C Gates, Perryville, Arkansas. This is the earliest document provided from Leland's Pension file. Leland evidently filled it out and returned it by December 30, 1897.

It must have been preceded by other queries to the Department of the Interior, Bureau of Pensions. It is organized by five questions which the respondent fills in. The hand writing is consistent throughout the document including the style and formation of letters in the signature; another way of saying Leland could read and write (it is also consistent with other documents among the Pension records).

Somewhat paraphrased.

#1. Are married, etc. Ans. Yes and to Eunice A Landphair.

#2. About details of marriage. Ans. March 27, 1863. Town of Gratiot, Lafayette County, Wisconsin. By Norman Richardson, J.P.

#3. Marriage record. Ans. Certificate lost. Recorded at Shullsburg, Wisconsin.

#4. Previously married? Ans. No and first wife is living and we are living together.

#5. Have you any living children? Please provide names and dates of birth.

Ans. Six.
Harlow A. Gates, 18640312.
John H Gates, 18651107.
Francis A Gates, 18700522.
Ell A Gates, 18780106.
Emma R Gates, 18810227.
Milton George Gates 18850524.

Dated Dec. 22nd, 1897 Signed: Leland C Gates

That completes the form. Several other later documents identify family members; this is the earliest - none are quite as legible and easily read as this one. Leland was 55 years of age.

A Deposition dated 19110925 states he and Eunice had nine children and all are dead except Harlow A and Milton George.

The next Pension document providing data about all their children is from Form 3-389 (darkened facsimile copy), dated 19150326 and states that he and Eunice had nine children but only two survive, Harlow A and George Milton. Names and dates of birth are provided chronologically on the form (readability is a challenge). It is assumed that three were already deceased by 1897 (Pheby Hannah, Charles Leland and Nolan Wallace). Place of birth has been added with notes consistent with other sources.


Name Birth Place Status Note
Harlow A Gates, 18640312. IL Always single
John Henry Gates, 18651107. IL Dead.
Pheby Hannah Gates, 18680216. IL Dead. Ever Married?
Francis Adel Gates, 18700522. Dead. IL or I.O?
Married Brown (WI?)
Married Anderson (AR)
Charles Leland Gates, 18760622. Dead. Year?
E A Allen Gates, 18780102. WI Dead. Initials?
Emma Rosella Gates, 18810227. IL Dead. Roselle?
Milton George Gates, 18880524. WI Year – favor 1885?
Always single
Nolan Wallace Gates, 18900721. AR Dead. Wallace?

At this point Census records and administrative “Marriage” records are available for additional family construction. In the case of Leland and Eunice some details are sad but useful and others add confusion. Ideally we would know about the marriages of all his children and then find the grandchildren.

Among the daughters, Pheby Hannah and Francis Adel we only have evidence that the latter married. The record is silent about Emma Rosella.

Submission MM6C-CGC (LDS) makes the inference that Pheby Hannah Gates married some unknown individual with the surname Barrett. This is most likely incorrect although she may have married the record is silent. The Smith Anderson and Francis Adel household is enumerated in Maumelle, Pulaski County, Arkansas 1900 Census – there are six members; two younger children are (Rena and Louis B) are identified as Andersons. There are two older children identified as Browns (Vernie age 12 and Alice age 6) and step-children of Smith Anderson. So it seems that Francis Adel has the two older children by a previous partner. Searches of Illinois and Wisconsin records were silent about a previous marriage for Francis Adel.

Arkansas marriage records exist for Francis Adel Gates and (H S) Henry Smith Anderson. The records confuse the marriage date but it could be as early as 1894 or as late as 1896 (the latter is more likely). Her brother, E A Gates (as signed) is one of the bond signers as is H S Anderson the principal.

Fortunately, as already mentioned, the Anderson household in 1900 Arkansas makes it most likely that Francis Adel had a previous family of two children: Vernie (b 1887) and Alice (b 1894) and their surname is Brown. Their father, Mr. Brown was born in Wisconsin, they were born in Arkansas. She now has two children by Henry Smith Anderson: Rena (b 18950400 ) and Louis B (b 18971000). All but Vernie are living with the grandparents, Leland and Eunice, in 1910 Arkansas Census. Alice (age 17), the presumed daughter of Francis Adel, has a relationship/married a Barrett, been widowed, and has a child of age 2, living with her: “L Barrett”. This begs the question as to what happened previously to Mr. Brown, to Henry Smith Anderson and Francis Adel (Gates) and also what happened to Mr. Barrett.

There are some possible Vernie Browns in the Arkansas records but not conclusive.

Leland's Pension records again enter into the story. When I acquired the Pension records there were some documents that made no sense to me until now (2019) as I went through them rebuilding the family and examining Census records. There was a record in 1938 claiming Leland's possessions from Leavenworth, Kansas by a grand-daughter, Jewel Bryant. There was another document signed by her mother “emancipating” Jewel. It was signed by Alice Bryant. There was enough other information to locate Census records for these two women.

Jewel, in fact, is a great-grand-daughter of Leland and Eunice. Alice is first a Brown, then a Barrett and finally a Bryant, it would seem. These conclusions represent reasonable inferences from the record that does exist – however the record would ideally be more complete.

In the 1920 Census, the Bryants are enumerated on the 20th of March in Louisiana, Richland County, Ward No 2. The head of household is identified as Floyd Bryant and they have three children (Beulah, Jewell and Franklin).

In 1930 they were residents of Louisiana, Claiborne County, ED 14-12 and J P Bryant was head of household and there are additional children (3 born in Louisiana). Are Floyd and J P the same man. In 1940 they were residents of Louisiana, Webster County, ED 60-17 and Alice is the head of household. The household includes two Bryant nephews. Jewel Bryant (age 24) is in a nearby household (Cox) as housekeeper. Sorting this out will have to wait until another day.

Now turning to the sons of Leland and Eunice.

Two sons, Charles Leland and Nolan Wallace, did not survive to adulthood. Two other sons, who survived the longest evidently remained single their entire lives and stayed with their parents. Harlow A died in 1926 and Milton George died in 1944.

John Henry and E A Allen may both have had their own families, especially John Henry, as eldest, but no specific records have been located to suggest definitively if either did.

There are two pieces of very confused 1920 Houston, Perry, Arkansas Census (hand numbered 772) enumeration that suggest a Gates grandson may exist by the initials P L (second enumeration version). Within the microfilmed Census one page refers to another page as to information being copied (in the margin) from it to the other. The potential grandson appears on these pages but only by initials and they are inconsistent between the pages. On the originating page the initials are quite illegible.

The enumeration has been done out of order (but error preserved on second version) and appears inconsistent by virtue of parents birth – both born in Arkansas. Leland and Eunice male adult children were not born in Arkansas. This kind of inconsistency is not unusual as it so depends on who is reporting.

Leland and Eunice and their family members leave so many questions unanswered and perhaps unanswerable. Why did the family move from Viola, Wisconsin to Arkansas. How many times did Francis Adel marry? Who is Mr. Brown? Are Floyd and J P Bryant the same man? Who was Mr. Barrett? Whatever happened to Jewel Bryant? How did so many in the family die? Who was the mysterious twenty-year-old who married Leland in 1920? What happened to the Gates grandson and who was his father.

Thus I conclude, knowingly incomplete, a very small part of a very large story.

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